Warren Should Focus on Brown as a Republican To Win, Local Democrats Say
After three polls released last week showed Elizabeth Warren ahead of Scott Brown, while another showed Brown ahead of Warren, Patch surveyed influential Massachusetts Democrats to get their take on the tight race.
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Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren should focus on Sen. Scott Brown's Republican affiliation and continue to tie him to the national GOP during the final stretch of his campaign: that's the main finding of this week's Blue Commonwealth survey of influential Massachusetts Democrats.
Three polls by three separate polling organizations showing Warren ahead of Brown—but barely—were released early last week.
Further illustrating how tight the race has become, hours after Patch sent the survey out to Massachusetts Republicans, another poll by UMass Lowell and the Boston Herald showed Brown ahead of Warren by 6 points, with a 5.5 percent margin of error, after an UMass Lowell/Herald poll nine months ago had Warren leading by 7.
Almost half of the influential Massachusetts Democrats that Patch surveyed, 48.2 percent, said that Warren's reported rise in the polls is most likely attributable to a post-Democratic National Convention bump that energized Democrats and left-leaning independents, while 29.6 percent attributed it to other factors, such as grassroots strength and voters "learning more about both candidates."
Those surveyed expressed confidence in the efficacy of Warren's get-out-the-vote organization compared to Brown's, with 37 percent saying it's "much better" than Brown's and 40.7 percent saying it's "somewhat better."
Reach Out to All Demographic Groups
The Western New England University (WNEU)'s Polling Institute's poll last week showed Brown leading Warren among male voters 49-44, while Warren led among female voters in the same poll 55-40. Asked which strategy Warren should focus on regarding the gender gap, influential Massachusetts Democrats were split: 37 percent said she should focus on cementing and extending her lead with female voters, 25.9 percent said she should try to make gains among male voters, and 33.3 percent voted "other."
In the "other" responses, some Democrats said Warren shouldn't focus on one demographic or another and go after voters from both groups, with one respondent adding that in focusing on both groups, Warren should be "providing a message that meets the needs of all, not some."
Asked how Warren could win over either male or female voters, some respondents focused on the 'War on Women' theme used by Warren's campaign to cement and extend her lead with female voters.
"Remind women that if Brown wins and the Republicans take back the Senate, it will be bad for women on reproductive issues, women's health, and workplace issues," one respondent wrote. "And that Brown tried to bully Warren during the first debate and obviously feels intimidate by smart, successful women, since he keeps sarcastically referring to her as 'The Professor.'"
Other respondents urged Warren's campaign to focus on economic issues, such as taxes and bills such as the American Jobs Act, and contrast her stances on those issues with Brown's, while connecting Brown to the national GOP's stances on the issues.
Define Scott Brown as Republican, Not Independent
Asked what should be the primary issue that Warren should focus on during the final stretch of the campaign, most of the survey respondents said that Warren should go after Brown for his voting record, which respondents described as "not independent" and "consistently with the Republican right wing."
Some respondents said that in defining Brown as a Republican, the Warren campaign should also emphasize the possibility of Republicans controlling the Senate, while others said Warren should focus on contrasting her views on economic issues with Republicans' views.
"Republican economic policies gave the middle class almost a decade of stagnation, followed by an economic collapse from which we're still recovering," one respondent wrote. "Once again, the GOP 'solution' is more tax cuts for the super-rich. We tried that, and it didn't work. Scott Brown says he's independent, but he only acts that way when it's easy. On the hard votes, on the important votes, Scott Brown toes the party line."
Brown and Warren had their first debate of four last week and most of the respondents leaned towards the debates deciding the race, with 59.3 somewhat agreeing it would be the deciding factor in the race and 18.5 percent strongly agreeing. Another 18.5 percent were neutral on the impact the debates would have on the race.
Red and Blue Commonwealth Survey
Our surveys are not a scientific, random sample of any larger population, but rather an effort to listen to a group of influential local Republican and Democratic activists, party leaders, candidates and elected officials in Massachusetts. All of these individuals have agreed to participate in Massachusetts’ Patch surveys, although not all responded to this story’s questions. Answers have been edited for style, but not for content.
Patch will be conducting Red Commonwealth and Blue Commonwealth surveys throughout the 2012 election season in hopes of determining the true sentiment of conservatives and progressives on the ground in Massachusetts. If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in periodic surveys that last just a few minutes, contact Associate Regional Editor Daniel DeMaina at danield@patch.com.
Note: This article is published across multiple Patch sites in the area.
Indiana
8:07 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
this patch is digraceful with all the Obama bias....look at the pictures, Who cares its their annivesary?? They think they are on a reality show instead of running this great country
paul
9:21 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
You must be looking at the Indiana State Patch.
Emcee of Seekonk
9:35 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Patch is a bit left leaning, but not terribly so. The bazillion ads you see with the Obama family are no doubt paid for by the Democrats. Occasionally you see Mitt Romney down in a corner someplace, but the Republicans are probably putting less money into this type of advertising.
Romney feels he can't take Massachusetts. The two races important to Republicans are the Brown vs Warren Senate race and the Bielat vs Kennedy race for representative. Very important that we all get out there and vote.
Gretchen Robinson
9:31 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
hey, Romney is not doing everything. He has no experience in foreign experience. He's not talking about what he'd do with Afghanistan. He's not even standing up for the families of our soldiers killed in the line of duty. One Republican senator is holding up that bill. Do your homework. Romney cares nothing about our soldiers.
Gretchen Robinson
11:02 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
why aren't you talking about Scott Brown's racist and sexist attacks on Elizabeth Warren. They are bogus and a diversion from him having to talk about the issues and remind people that he's indelibly tied to Romney/Ryan and deadend Republican policies.
These kinds of attacks are an old tactic and often effective. Except this time the Brown's Republican puppet masters messed up.
What Scott Brown is doing in attacking Elizabeth Brown is 'race baiting' just like Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, and George Wallace.
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/13813/splintering_the_99_percent_race_baiting#.UGTdPXTe-98.email
Fiscal Conservative
9:48 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Emcee of Seekonk: How many times will each Democrat vote to ensure their choice wins? Their motto: "Vote early and OFTEN".
Jesse James
11:25 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Even if you are dead or are in the US illegally.
Dennis Keller
10:28 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Ahh, the con wackos are out again!
There isn't the slightest evidence that this is true. Shame on you guys.
Indiana
10:10 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Good points Emcee and Fiscal! Where are the local ACORN shops located around here?
Emcee of Seekonk
10:14 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
LOL. Some people do get creative, that's why we need voter picture ID's. Massachusetts seems to be dragging its feet on that, though, I wonder why.
Absentee ballots delivered to nursing homes and elderly housing is where things really get ramped up. Need a fix for that.
paul
11:04 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Emcee, did you see how many people voted on Monday? People with ID's don't vote never mind folks with no ID, job, car or home. Do you really think unemployed, homeless people with no ID are going to flood the polls on November 6th and vote multiple times? Nursing homes/elderly vote Republican so don't worry about it.
Fiscal Conservative
11:41 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Paul: How about we do as Iraq did with their first election. Stick your finger in puple dye that won't come off for, at least 2 months. 'Spectin', we stick our heads in the dye, right to the neck. What the heck, many already dye their hair bizarre colors already. Lets just make it the majority, who look foolish. Afterall, many are going to vote foolishly, anyway.
Mr. Ragman
11:47 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
No, but anyone of the EBT card holders that received a voter registration card with their correspondence thanks to Tin Lizzy's daughter, can return it signed - NO QUESTIONS ASKED - and vote on 11/6 - whether or not they are US Citizens, which of course, is a requirement to vote in the US - BUT ONLY IF SOMEONE CHECKS AND NO ONE DOES - you merely sign the form 'swearing' that you are a citizen. Do you think for a minute someone wanting to beat the system gives two hoots about their 'sworn' statement? These are the same people that claim they are seeking work while collecting unemployment and that their disabilities prevent them from doing anything but sucking off the teet that is the pig known as the US Government.
Gretchen Robinson
9:33 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
you guys keep repeating yourself, repeating the same old lies. It's old. I doesn't work anymore.
Jesse James
11:31 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
I checked the 2010 voter registration and street listings in the town of Westford and found that there were 623 voters out of 14,445 that were under the age of 17 or did not appear on the street listings.
When I query a voter registrar on the discrepancy that it was not possible. When I showed her the data. She said that the is less than a 5% error.
Indiana
11:58 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Here you go Paul...This person on You tube explains everything...Good grief...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio&feature=em-share_video_user
paul
12:46 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
I saw the video. Do you think the cops at the polls would let that loud mouth lady vote twice? By the way, she's an actor and got paid for that bit. Are you paranoid all the time or just at election time? Do you really think people will try and vote twice for a phone? If a person is too lazy to work, they are just as lazy on election day!
Andrew
12:16 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Marcia Coakley was up 15%, according to the Boston Globe, a week before the election 2 years ago. Then we saw the true story.
The media is so left leaning it's pathetic. And the Patch's continual plastering of ads and pictures of the Messiah is nauseating.
Emcee of Seekonk
12:37 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Agreed, the media and the polls are left leaning. In Coakley's case, the Boston Globe says it all. Either the sample was mostly Democrats or the Globe made up a number they thought would discourage those who might vote for Scott Brown.
Gretchen Robinson
9:37 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Martha Coakley. Scott Brown because he blitzed every tv in the state with Republican lies and distortions. Ain't gonna happen again. He's up against a feisty woman. By the way, Professor Charles Fried of Harvard Law, a Republican (!!!) says that Elizabeth Warren got accepted as professor at Harvard "on merit." http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/05/elizabeth-warren-native-american-scott-brown-/1#.UGTgyo7iOQI
Scott Brown doesn't want to talk about the issues because it reminds people he is a Republican. It gets people remembering how he voted against their interests in favor of conservative Republican position. So he goes on the attack. Too bad Scot. You don't have a leg to stand on now. Chump change.
Emcee of Seekonk
12:29 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
@paul... I think it is safe to say that Seekonk has .001 voter fraud, and that would be mostly because of the way we vote: one voting place and all precincts in the same room. Now when the Emporiums for the Elderly are built, the number might move to .002.
"Nursing homes/elderly vote Republican so don't worry about it..." I certainly hope so, especially in Florida.
paul
12:53 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
And for the record, I think everyone 18+ should have an ID. I think it's already law and I know that cops can lock up a person until they figure out for sure who they are. It only takes a second to flash an ID and everyone should have one that steps into any polling place in America.
deb of see-attleboro
1:04 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
My opinion on voter ID is this. The left claims that voter ID is a right wing attempt at voter suppression. I think the left does not want voter ID because it is in the Democratic parties best interest to keep certain classes of people living in the shadows. And make no mistake about it. This is modern day bondage.
Avon Barksdale
1:08 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Your opinions seem to be born of some insatiable desire to receive attention for coming up with the least plausible conclusion possible given a set of circumstances and a question. It's as if you are at one end of the universe and Occam's Razor is at the other.
Gretchen Robinson
9:40 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
the ignorance in these statements is appalling. Republicans are losing so they want to purge voters. They remember that's how Bush II won. Thousands of Floridians were turned away. Many of them Black. I presume we are all White here as I am but I think/ believe we are here to help one another. And that means equal access to voting.
Jesse James
11:35 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
@Gretchen Robinson
I suggest that you read Tip O'Neill's autobiography to understand methods that Democrats have used to steal elections. You can also contact the Tommy Menino political machine for instructions on padding the votes in favor of Professor Warren.
Indiana
1:54 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
No Paul its plain and simple - good part of the democratic base just want their entitlements. If she is an actor then i am the Pope
paul
2:16 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
A good part of the Republican base is part of the 47%. Retired military, disabled veterans, handicapped, senior citizens all want their entitlements, should we cut them off as well?
Gretchen Robinson
9:41 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
prove it. This is Tea Potty nonsense.
Avon Barksdale
2:00 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
All hail Pope Indianus I.
Indiana
2:41 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
No they have all earned it and deserve their benefits.
Telling it like it is
3:51 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Auntie Zeituni is the poster child for the Democratic party.
Gretchen Robinson
10:52 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
what's that supposed to mean? you all just egg each other on. Mustn't have anything better to do than recycle the old biases.
Jesse James
11:39 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
At least Auntie Zeituni is open about her belief that she is entitled. Pocahontas Warren wants everyone to believe that she got a sweetheart job ($325,000/ year to teach one course) because of her superior academic credentials.
Andrew
10:49 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Why doesn't the Messiah take care of his own family? He wants to "spead the wealth" as long as it's not his. I'm sick and tired of helping to support DEADBEATS. These bloodsuckers are killing the fabric of this once great country.
In the immortal words of Margaret Thatcher, "The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."
Ken B.
10:45 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Gretchen, Bush won Florida. The time clock for knocking out more Gore chads expired 12 years ago. The comment about "thousands turned away"....first time I've heard that one.
Gretchen Robinson
10:51 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
no he didn't. It was handed to him by the SCOTUS. Gore ended up with 5000 more votes than Bush in FL, popular vote.
Black people were stopped driving to the polls. Harrassed. Only small numbers of people could get in per hour and the polls closed at the designated times with out people in line getting to cast their ballots. People believe what they want to believe but some of us remember the injustices. There have been so many.
Jesse James
11:44 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Only because over 120,000 absentee ballots from military personnel were not counted.
BTW Did you know that Al Gore was the only private that had a personal bodyguard assigned to him while he was stationed in Saigon, Vietnam as combat(?) reporter?
He only lasted 5 months before he was rotated back to the states to attend seminary school.
BTW Did you know that Al Gore lived in a 40,000 sq. ft.. home and is considered an environmentalist?
Ken B.
1:21 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Wow. What a vivid imagination you have ! I followed the 2000 Florida recount closely and don't recall hearing any of what you're attempting to sell here, except for perhaps an isolated incident here or there. Further, I do recall that a newspaper did an independent study/recount of the ballots, and can you guess what their conclusion was......???
Bush won !
paul
7:37 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
BTW did you know that no one cares about Al Gore, his service record or his house?
Indiana
7:57 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Gretchen you obviously work for the left - for anyone to support barry and liz as you do is incredible. are you brain washed? He has done nothing but ruin a country. I know it's George's fault. I coached youth sports in the past - can I run for president. And there you go again playing the race card. All Scoott did was call liawatha out for lying.She cannot approve it.
Avon Barksdale
8:26 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Yes you can run for president, it's America.
Gretchen Robinson
3:42 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
smear, lies--if Brown continues to disrespect and malign his opponent with such falsehoods, he'll just lose by a wider margin!
He's shooting himself in the foot by taking Karl Rove's advice and money!!
Just Me!
8:36 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
I recently went to a bank to cash a check drawn on it....They put me through the ringer....They requested 2 forms of Photo ID....taking their own photo and a heavy fee to cash it...what topped off the whole episode was they also wanted my fingerprints too....I just laughed at them and walked out...all of that to cash a check..........next..they will want a DNA sample......sad thing about it was that they had my fingerprints and DNA on the check itself...lol....
Disabled folks who want to park in a reserved disabled parking spot have to have a placard, with pic, issued by the RMV or DOT..whatever they are called this week.......if voter fraud is that bad...well...don't our drivers licenses now have a bar code scan on the back?.....CVS scans it when you purchase sudafed from them limiting the amount you can purchase....Does the state also have a photo ID system in place for those who don't drive, those using support like EBT cards or Unemployment benefits?....Voting poll personnel can check ID's just like a bartender, server, Bank personnel, or salesman selling tobacco or alcohol......seems pretty straight forward...if you're on the up and up, you shouldn't have a problem....
Indiana
8:54 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
And I am an American...>.Just me - don't make sense like that - the left will charge you with racial profiling,How do expect them some of them to get to registry from their state housing.Maybe use their free cell phone and call a friend for a ride in their Navigator
Avon Barksdale
9:01 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
I am often amazed at the levels of anger and jealousy people have for the lavish lifestyles of those receiving public assistance.
Indiana
10:03 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
I know Avon - shame on we the people who play by the RULES - go to work - pay the mortgage/rent - help heighbors
Avon Barksdale
10:08 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
You must be a very special treat as a neighbor, I can only imagine. And don't get mad at me, I elected you both Pope and president in less than 24 hours.
Indiana
10:24 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Avon - I am not mad at you - have to take as well as give. trust me if bubba was running he would get my vote.
Jesse James
1:51 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Indiana, I was impressed by Avon's selection of you as Pope and POTUS but your support for Bubba burst your balloon.
BTW Monica is playing to publish her version of 7 intimate dates that she had with Bubba.
SJP
11:13 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Can't B. Hueissen Obama find another country to bankrupt. Leave mine alone, frightening how few people care about it.
Ken B.
1:24 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
What's the difference between an Obama supporter and a Romney supporter ?
The Romney supporter signs the front of the check, the Obama supporter signs the back of it.
Gretchen Robinson
3:43 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Florida is in turmoil. Republicans hired a firm to "re-register" Republican party in FL. The firm paid workers to go door to door and offer to re-register them. Turns out the home addresses were either in NYC or a Shell station of a warehouse!! The only voter fraud is (1) in the Republican paranoid schemes and 2) from having so many millions to 'buy' this election, that they are throwing it away and unwittingly (or intentionally?) committing fraud themselves.
How about keeping up with the news, something other than Faux Gnus.
Kurt Buermann
3:49 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Just Me,
I worked in banking for 17 years and either you are fabricating or hallucinating. If your tale is true, you have a history of of fiscal flim-flam. NO law-abiding person would be put through such a "ringer."( By the way, it's wringer, not "ringer.")
Your story is made up as NO bank would charge a fee to cash a check drawn upon it. IN fact the4 bank is legally prevented from doing what you describe. You likely have a criminal past.
Rob Machado
4:18 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Sarek...your scope is limited...Citizens bank recently charged seven dollars to cash an expense check issued by my own company. I didn't have an account with them but I went there expecting them to cash it since it was their own check...NO DEAL...not without a fee...and they wanted a finger print. I'm clean as a whistle...no record nothing...so...it's true.
Mr. Ragman
1:54 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
The fees are brought to you by Liz Warren's CFPB - Dodd/Frank - believe me all this regulation will and is passed on to the consumer. Just like credit card companies shortening their grace period to 25 days, so now there are more than 12 billing cycles in a year, note that on your statement they are called billing cycles and not months anymore. You see no matter what roadblocks gov't throws up to thwart capitalism, capitalist always find away around it like Obamacare - companies will simply pay the fine instead of providing healthcare, unions like your beloved SEIU all have waivers, non-profits and universities - the cesspools that spawn liberal thought pattern - all are exempt - who are the chumps here? Not the needy, they pay nothing and get thousands upon thousands in return - make $50k - you're screwed - $100k? Doubly screwed, $250k? - well you are a 1% and will definitely pay, unless of course you are a union hack or public servant, school teacher, cop or employed by a non-profit (see above) - you are protected by your messiah.
Gretchen Robinson
3:53 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Sarek, do you have to sound so hostile, judgmental, superior? All banks are not perfect in observing the law. Bank managers are not choir boys/girls--and individual tellers can have a bad day.
Your final sentence above is insulting to the max and needs to be withdrawn.
Gretchen Robinson
4:45 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
here's more info on the emerging election fraud scandal, brought to you by
the Republicans!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/28/1137628/-BREAKING-Florida-GOP-Election-Fraud-scandal-spreads-to-ten-counties
Jonathan Friedman
4:49 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Gretchen, you seriously think you are going to persuade those who disagree with you by posting a story from Daily Kos?
Avon Barksdale
5:09 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
What, should she have posted a story from a trusted, respected source like, say, "Patch"?
It's reposted on Kos via the LA Times, FWIW.
And really, such a tiny fraction of the commenters here are ever going to change their minds about anything. Commenting is really an intramural exercise where people throw filth over a wall and hope that it hits some of the nameless, faceless ideologues on the other side.
deb of see-attleboro
6:00 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Gretchen throws a lot at the wall with High Hopes something will stick.
Kurt Buermann
5:24 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Rob, Grtechen:
Rob
Rob the bank you visited was NOT (I assume) the bank upon which the check was drawn. If this is the case you may have encountered an legitimate, however outrageous fee..
Gretchen
I did not accuse,merely suspected hat some incident in Just Me's past made the bank wary of him. I do apologize in second sentence. I should have written: :"you MAY have a history of of fiscal flim-flam."
Gretchen Robinson
5:36 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Sarek,
thank you. We are all innocent until proven guilty. It takes a big person to go back and apologize. It also helps us keep on track (helps me keep on track) in this discussion.
I was thinking overnight, is this a discussion or is it a debate. Or venting? I know sometimes (some would say all the time) I over-react and I am working to be more civil and stick to facts that we might possibly check out and agree on (?). I do think that a few can spoil it for the people who want to discuss.
Just bought a book at Attleboro Library book sale: "Is It Just Me? Or is it nuts out there?" by Whoopi Goldberg. It's about greatest national growth industry (my term) and its product is our incivility. Incivility affects the quality of our lives. I've taken to saying to people 'don't lose sleep over it' but many of us are losing sleep over the problems in our nation and the world. Why do we say things here we would never say to others, (most of us).
Indiana
8:53 am on Saturday, September 29, 2012
LOL - people accusing republican election fraud have never heard of the Obama run company called ACORN???
Jane Street
10:48 am on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Avon: LOL. I read your comment on Occams Razor out-loud to my husband...
deb of see-attleboro
10:58 am on Saturday, September 29, 2012
LOL!! Was that before or after coitus?
Gretchen Robinson
12:58 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Jane, perhaps they don't know what Occam's Razor is and so to overcome their lack of knowledge they smear more and more. Here's info on Occam's razor. You might learn a bit of logic and how the scientific method helps with thinking critically.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/scientific-experiments/occams-razor.htm
Emcee of Seekonk
11:03 am on Saturday, September 29, 2012
@deb... LOL. Go girl !!!
deb of see-attleboro
1:47 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Emcee: Perhaps Gretchen does not know what "coitus" is. Do you think I should post a link?:)
Emcee of Seekonk
2:16 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
@deb... ROFL. You're keeping me laughing today. Thank you.
Gretchen Robinson
12:51 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Deb see, seems to see nothing but how to smear another person. Attacks on ACORN are pure fiction made up by Rove and ALEC and the Koch brothers (the puppet masters). Get serious.
How about we talk about the news that Sean Bielat owes $30,000 to his consulting firm from his 2010?? Guy had so much money coming in and was so overwhelmed trying to straighten out after his failed run, that he missed that one. Oh, and typical Republican, who plays by the party's playbook, he blames he ex-consultant. No wonder deb see wants to change the subject.
How about we discuss how Scott Brown said if he'd known about the 'war whoops', tomahawk chops and other frat boy tactics by his staff a few Saturday's ago, he "would have put a stop to it." Yeah, right. There's a second video of him speaking in the high priced town of Chatham (nice work if you can get it) in July! You can hear the 'war whoops' in the background by his staff, inciting the crowd.
Scott Brown didn't put a stop to it then. In other words his defense is a lie. He lied
in his later statement.
Telling it like it is
1:04 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Anybody that fakes their ethnic background, in order to advance their career, deserves to be tomahawked. She is a white fraud that used affirmative action as a stepping stone. Any regular person would have been fired for lying instead of put on a pedestal for being the "first woman of color" at Harvard.
Jesse James
1:58 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Gretchen! You refer to Occam's Razor but fail to apply the principles advocated by Occam.
BTW As a Florida State Seminoles and Atlanta fan, I whoop and do the chop as I perform a war dance in support of my teams. BTW I am ~1/4 Mayan indian who never got or asked for a free lunch from the US taxpayers unlike the so called Native Americans who fought on the side of the British during America's War of Independence and in the War of 1812.
DJ
1:37 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
I am so tired of this ignorant and false comment being repeated over and over even though the FACTS have come out. The only fraud is you perpetuating a fraudulent statement. Get your facts straight if you haven't bothered to by now.
Gretchen Robinson
3:40 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
DJ, here's some factual writing about Native Americans, how they live their values, values you don't find here with people posting the most absurd and hostile comments. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/opinion/sunday/kill-the-indians-then-copy-them.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
DJ
3:58 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Gretchen, I was referring to "Telling it like it is". I apologize if I didn't make that clear.
Gretchen Robinson
4:15 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
apologies, DJ
SJP
2:15 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
The fact being (as I have stated before) is the libs being Zealots do not care about character. They would vote for Adolph Hitler if he was a democrat, sad but true.
Gretchen Robinson
3:39 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
slur....
Jesse James
2:00 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Truth- Check out the Dixiecrats and George Wallace legacies.
Ken B.
2:42 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
"Attacks on ACORN are pure fiction made up by Rove and ALEC and the Koch brothers...."
".....Gore won Florida by 5,000 votes...."
Someone has a vivid imagination.
SJP
3:39 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Ken, open your mind, this state has FAR too many Adolph Hitler democrats. Gore lost 86% of the real estate was NEVER ahead. Every illegal alien, every criminal felon, every illegal voter couldn't put him ahead. He would have apologized to OBL for putting our buildings in front of their hijacked planes. That's the type of leader you want?
Minds like parachutes only work when open.
Gretchen Robinson
3:42 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
stop watching Faux Gnus
I have over 25 online and magazine sources I read every day. How many do you read?
Ken B.
10:02 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Then post the link that proves your lie "Gore won Florida by 5,000 votes"
Oh, you can't because it doesn't exist !!!
Jesse James
2:03 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
You obviously work for the government. Get a life and get your facts straight. Syat with the NY Times and Washington Post and then check out their facts with Fox News. A quick scan of BBC for world news will make you an informed person in less than 20 minutes/day of your own time.
SJP
3:51 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
OH, BTW gas was $4.03 @the the Mobil corner of Washington and Central this morn.
More great work by the B Hussein Obama and the fake injun team. When your're at war with business this is the result.
DJ
4:05 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
You mean you actually support monopolized oil taking the consumer hostage so they can keep the dole coming through their "right" arm with corporate welfare?
Say no more. It votes like your that empowered the slime.
Telling it like it is
6:03 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
"I'm so tired of this ignorant and false comment" Bwa Bwa Bwhahahahahahahahahaha
The only Fact is that she has no Indian heritage. When asked to provide some she can't. When the real Cherokee Indians ask to meet with her she won't. She used a faked story to advance her career. How she can look into a mirror and rationalize that she is "a woman of color" is beyond putrid. The delusional Moonbat just see's Democrat and that person gets their vote. Sad!
DJ
6:38 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Well that's the Michael Graham version, Now try reading the truth about why the parents eloped and how the entire family was brought up with the same stories and beliefs. You do realize your seeking documented proof for Indian nation births circa Oklahoma territory, right?
Gretchen Robinson
4:14 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
SJP: Fox News
Gretchen Robinson
6:12 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Scott Brown "She checked the box" "saying she's a woman of color and clearly, (simpering shrug), she is not." TILII....when do you drop the hate that blinds you.
Note that people like you are using words like "Moonbat" and that this side of the debate isn't. I don't even know what a moonbat is? It sounds like a made up term. Like "Tomahawk chop" --there is no such thing in Native American culture. It was made up for the "Washington Redskins." Just their name is an insult to Native peoples.
Jesse James
2:10 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Professor Warren, if you are really a Cherokee, at least one ancestor of Cherokee blood, you should check the Dawes Rolls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl2WNu4ERqA&feature=related
You do not have to rely on stories told to you by your ancestors.
Jonathan Friedman
6:18 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Playing the Hitler card is never a good idea. I have faith that the people who comment on this site can do a better job than that.
Gretchen Robinson
6:48 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
In my experience, Hitler references just inflames the conversation and ill-serves the one who makes the comment.
Let's have "More light, less heat"
Indiana
8:45 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
ACORN was indead real and I am sure is running under another name this time around.
Dennis Keller
10:09 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Real?! Sorry, but this is another example of the Republican alternate-reality.
Check this out: http://www.pennlive.com/editorials/index.ssf/2010/01/acorn_voter_fraud_claims_are_p.html
This quote from the story sums it up: "As many organizations on both sides of the political aisle did, ACORN paid its employees $1 per new voter registered. While most workers did their jobs and lawfully registered new voters, a few defrauded ACORN by filling out the registration cards themselves and turning them in for the dollar.
In nearly every instance, it was ACORN that discovered the fraud and called it to the attention of election authorities.
The inescapable conclusion to which the evidence leads is that if there is fraud involved with ACORN’s activities, it is being perpetrated by those knowingly making false accusations against the organization."
Did you get the last line? The people guilty of fraud are those claiming it where it doesn't exist!
Gretchen Robinson
10:33 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
get that pope Indiana?
Dennis. thanks for the link
I'm sure there will be more coming out on the Republican funded voter fraud in FL, since it's a breaking story. But here again, the voter fraud was found out.
Andrew
10:59 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
I want my obama phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gretchen Robinson
11:34 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
David Shields, pundit for the democrats noted Republican discontent and called "conservative whine country..."
Indiana
9:26 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
ACORN - SEIU same thing....keep believing lib pundits...
Indiana
4:48 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
wouldn't you want a few republicans in office in this dreadful state?? You know a LITTLE balance?? I would think unless you are in a union or just bleed blue? Anytimr.e I hear ACLU or SEIU in a story - immediately it is bogus
Gretchen Robinson
5:01 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
I have a Republican state rep, mayor, most of the city councilors, neighbors hereabouts. The Attleboro area is rife with Republicans.
Indiana, that is a bogus argument. One that people like you always fall back on. It's a plea that I have addressed before.
Vote the candidate. Republicans have no back bench. They have run flub-a-dub candidates in the past (Peter Blute, a guy who was cross-dressing in his office, etc.) Put up some solid candidates and I'll vote for them. I have in the past. But they are all so far to the right right now, that I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole.
Daniel F. Devine
5:26 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
I think GRETCHEN has too much time on her hands.....Get a life GRETCHEN!
Jane Street
6:51 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Really Daniel? Gretchen is consistenly civil, issue oriented, and knowledable. She supports what she writes with references, and is a recently retired hospice chaplin. Really, get a life? Sometimes reading comments on the Patch is like swimming through a sewer...
Jesse James
9:58 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
So Gretchen instead of ministering to dying patients spends her time reading 25 plus newspapers and posting to blogs to defend the failed policies of POTUS Obama and VPOTUS Biden.
She is surely one of the 47$ with her hand out waiting for government hand outs.
Indiana
7:49 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Believe it or not I have voted democrat 90% of my life for over 30 years - not anymore, I am disgusted with the dems lately - lies upon lies(i know it happens on both sides) . I certainly trust Brown over Warren...Obama just seems to be campaigning instead of running the country for the last 4 years - just think it was too soon for him. You are accurate that there is not much on both sides. We end up voting against a candidate than for a candidate
Avon Barksdale
8:25 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
"Believe it or not " ... Yeah, I choose not to believe that.
Indiana
9:23 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
it is true Avon...voted for Bubba and his "cigars" twice and Bush JR once.I voted for McCain but would have voted for Hillary instead. That is the beauty of being independent...that's what makes me wonder why you all stick up for Barry the way you do.
Gretchen Robinson
10:07 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Barry?
Indiana
7:51 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Yes Barry Soetoro - Barack's original name
Sinclair
8:40 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Not his original name. President Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro, her second husband, and her son Barack kept his original name.
Why is it that the oppostion didn't play with the original names Leslie Lynch King and William Jefferson Blythe III both of whom are former presidents? Could it be that they are both white and without any association with Muslims?
Indiana
9:58 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Hey I didn't bring it up...it was a previous name he went by - don't care what his ethnicity is. BTW isn't he half white?
Gretchen Robinson
12:58 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
to racists in the south through out 1800s-1900s "one drop of N------ blood
made you a black. Conservatives in this country are still caught up in that mentality.
Btw we are all racists, all internalized racial messages as kids and have them inside us. Read "Learning to Be White" by Tim Wise.
Jesse James
9:03 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Gretchen! It must be a slow day at the hospice place for you to be so engaged on topics for which are clearly without a clue.
There is no difference between a Welfare Queen or public sector drone sucking up their sustenance from the blood of taxpayers.
BTW I am ~1/4 Mayan Indian and reading Wise's book, written to lay a guilt trip on Honkies, will not enhance my body of knowledge.
Gretchen Robinson
9:13 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
if that's your outlook then go on believing it.
I'll stick with reality....
Jesse James
10:52 am on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Your reality is to continue to suck the blood from hard working taxpayers to maintain the lifestyle of the public sector blood suckers.